My wife Reva died this morning at 4:35 a.m. She died peacefully beside me in bed. I want to thank everyone who sent letters and prayers how very much we are grateful to you for helping us get through this.
WATER BAPTISM-IMMERSION, SPRINKLING OR POURING? BY STEVE FINNELL
What is the meaning of water baptism? Is it immersion in water? Is it being sprinkled with water? Is it having water poured on a person? Is it all three?
The Greek word baptizo was not translated into English, in most translations. Baptizo was transliterated into English as baptize. The definition of transliterate is; to change letters, words, etc. into corresponding characters of another alphabet or language.
I am going to quote from a translation that translates the Greek word baptizo into English. THE BETTER VERSION OF THE NEW TESTAMENT BY CHESTER ESTES (TBVOTNT)
Matthew 3:16 And when Jesus was immersed, he went up from the water, and, behold, immediately the heavens were opened to him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and resting upon him.
There is no translation that reads-Jesus was sprinkled or poured.
Acts 8:38 Then he commanded the chariot to stand still; and they both went down into the water, both Philip and the eunuch, and he immersed him.
There is no translation that reads-he sprinkled or poured him.
Acts 2:38 The Peter said unto them, Let each of you repent and be immersed, in the name of Jesus Christ, in order to the remission of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
There is nor translation that reads-repent and be sprinkled or poured.
Acts 10:47 Can any one forbid water, that these should not be immersed, who received the Holy Spirit , even as we did.
There is no translation that reads-that these should not be sprinkled or poured.
Galatians 3:27 For as many of you have been immersed into Christ, have put on Christ.
There is no translation that reads-have been sprinkled or poured into Christ.
Romans 6:4 We were, therefore, buried with him by immersioninto that death; that as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, thus we also should walk in newness of life.
There is no translation that reads- buried with him by sprinkling or pouring.
Colossians 2:12 Having been buried with him by immersion, by which also you were raised up with him, through the belief of the strong working of God, who raised him from the dead.
There is no translation that reads-buried with him by sprinkling or pouring.
1 Peter 3:20-21.....to safety by water. 21 The like figure, in which immersion does, also, now save us (not a putting away of the filth of the flesh, but seeking of a good conscience toward God) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ;
There is no translation that reads- to safety by water. The like figure which is sprinkling or pouring.
Acts 14:4 Paul then said to them, John immersed with the immersion of repentance, saying to the people that they should should believe on him who would come after him, that is, Jesus.
There is no translation that reads-John sprinkled or poured with the sprinkling or pouring of repentance.
Matthew 28:19 Go you, therefore, making disciples of all nations, immersing them into the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit;
There is no translation that reads-sprinkling or pouring them into the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Mark 16:16 He who has believed, and has been immersed, will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.
There is no translation that reads-and has been sprinkled or poured, will be saved.
BAPTIZE MEANS IMMERSION AS TRANSLITERATED FROM THE GREEK WORD BAPTIZO.
BAPTIZO TRANSLATED FROM THE GREEK MEANS IMMERSION.
(All Scripture from: THE BETTER VERSION OF THE NEW TESTAMENT BY CHESTER ESTES)
( If you have some interest in THE BETTER VERSION OF THE NEW TESTAMENT BY CHESTER ESTES-DO A GOOGLE SEARCH)
YOU ARE INVITED TO FOLLOW MY BLOG. http//:steve-finnell.blogspot.com
Why does this have any relevancy to mourning the death of a spouse?? I don't seem to remember any instance where Jesus took the opportunity of a loved one's death to lecture the survivors. I do remember instances where he showed them great compassion. But then.....I haven't read "THE BETTER VERSION OF THE NEW TESTAMENT BY CHESTER ESTES."
In all of my life, this is the most insensitive comment I have ever read. The death of my wife has changed my life forever. To read this comment is beyond belief.
Steve I am sure you would like to apologize to Pastor Allen for your blunder of a reply in his obvious time of tremendous heartbreak. Your mindless driveling about baptism is hardly appropriate conversation and why all the YELLING? Perhaps at 4:57a.m. you should have been sleeping it off!!! I am going to guess that Steve didn't even read Pastor Allen's blog and that he just "robo advertises" on different pastor's blogs, this is very unfortunate and sickening. Sorry Pastor Al...you have been spammed, because truly, no goodhearted Christian would have replied in this manner. You are loved by so many and our hearts break for you. We offer our prayers for peace and comfort in your time of sorrow. Tanya
Al, This is a eulogy committal from centuries ago, but is most fitting for Reva.
Song of Farewell
Saints of God, come to her aid! Hasten to meet her, angels of the Lord! Receive her soul and present her to God the Most High.
May Christ, who called you, take you to himself, May angels lead you to the bosom of Abraham.
Receive her soul and present her to God Most High.
Eternal rest grant unto her and let perpetual light shine upon her.
Receive her soul and present her to God the Most High.
Psalm 114:15, “Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints.”
May choirs of angels welcome you and lead you to the bosom of Abraham; and where Lazarus is poor no longer may you find eternal rest.
May saints and angels lead you on, escorting you where Christ has gone.
Now he has called you, come to him who sits above the seraphim. Come to the peace of Abraham and to the supper of the lamb; Come to the glory of the blessed, and to perpetual light.
Thanks Steve, 'Yo Bro'. I need to hear this to keep me going. You're a good brother. I never knew it could be this hard. Thank you. It really helps to know when people truly care.
Pastor Al - have just finished reading all of this and am so sorry that someone could be so insensitive that he would put a post of this type on your page. I totally agree with Tanya. She is right. You are so loved and prayed for. I know in some ways that doesn't help ease your pain and yet perhaps in some small measure, it does. Most of all, you are loved by God. And He can comfort as no one else can. Just know you are allowed to grieve. Someone very special has been removed from your life and even tho you had some time, perhaps, to know that day was coming, it's hard. Just know you are remembered in prayer.
We love you both very much! If you are in need of anything, please don't hesitate to call or just drop by. You have been a blessing to our church and our family!
Pastor Al- I have been reading some of your blogs and this one about Reva is so touching. You are a gentleman and a Christian. There is no doubt in my mind, but that your sweetheart is in God's presence and she is healed and whole again. When your day comes to meet the Lord, I know Reva will be there to welcome you home.
WATER BAPTISM-IMMERSION, SPRINKLING OR POURING? BY STEVE FINNELL
ReplyDeleteWhat is the meaning of water baptism? Is it immersion in water? Is it being sprinkled with water? Is it having water poured on a person? Is it all three?
The Greek word baptizo was not translated into English, in most translations. Baptizo was transliterated into English as baptize. The definition of transliterate is; to change letters, words, etc. into corresponding characters of another alphabet or language.
I am going to quote from a translation that translates the Greek word baptizo into English. THE BETTER VERSION OF THE NEW TESTAMENT BY CHESTER ESTES (TBVOTNT)
Matthew 3:16 And when Jesus was immersed, he went up from the water, and, behold, immediately the heavens were opened to him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and resting upon him.
There is no translation that reads-Jesus was sprinkled or poured.
Acts 8:38 Then he commanded the chariot to stand still; and they both went down into the water, both Philip and the eunuch, and he immersed him.
There is no translation that reads-he sprinkled or poured him.
Acts 2:38 The Peter said unto them, Let each of you repent and be immersed, in the name of Jesus Christ, in order to the remission of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
There is nor translation that reads-repent and be sprinkled or poured.
Acts 10:47 Can any one forbid water, that these should not be immersed, who received the Holy Spirit , even as we did.
There is no translation that reads-that these should not be sprinkled or poured.
Galatians 3:27 For as many of you have been immersed into Christ, have put on Christ.
There is no translation that reads-have been sprinkled or poured into Christ.
Romans 6:4 We were, therefore, buried with him by immersioninto that death; that as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, thus we also should walk in newness of life.
There is no translation that reads- buried with him by sprinkling or pouring.
Colossians 2:12 Having been buried with him by immersion, by which also you were raised up with him, through the belief of the strong working of God, who raised him from the dead.
There is no translation that reads-buried with him by sprinkling or pouring.
1 Peter 3:20-21.....to safety by water. 21 The like figure, in which immersion does, also, now save us (not a putting away of the filth of the flesh, but seeking of a good conscience toward God) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ;
There is no translation that reads- to safety by water. The like figure which is sprinkling or pouring.
Acts 14:4 Paul then said to them, John immersed with the immersion of repentance, saying to the people that they should should believe on him who would come after him, that is, Jesus.
There is no translation that reads-John sprinkled or poured with the sprinkling or pouring of repentance.
Matthew 28:19 Go you, therefore, making disciples of all nations, immersing them into the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit;
There is no translation that reads-sprinkling or pouring them into the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Mark 16:16 He who has believed, and has been immersed, will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.
There is no translation that reads-and has been sprinkled or poured, will be saved.
BAPTIZE MEANS IMMERSION AS TRANSLITERATED FROM THE GREEK WORD BAPTIZO.
BAPTIZO TRANSLATED FROM THE GREEK MEANS IMMERSION.
(All Scripture from: THE BETTER VERSION OF THE NEW TESTAMENT BY CHESTER ESTES)
( If you have some interest in THE BETTER VERSION OF THE NEW TESTAMENT BY CHESTER ESTES-DO A GOOGLE SEARCH)
YOU ARE INVITED TO FOLLOW MY BLOG. http//:steve-finnell.blogspot.com
Why does this have any relevancy to mourning the death of a spouse?? I don't seem to remember any instance where Jesus took the opportunity of a loved one's death to lecture the survivors. I do remember instances where he showed them great compassion. But then.....I haven't read "THE BETTER VERSION OF THE NEW TESTAMENT BY CHESTER ESTES."
DeleteIn all of my life, this is the most insensitive comment I have ever read. The death of my wife has changed my life forever. To read this comment is beyond belief.
ReplyDeleteSteve I am sure you would like to apologize to Pastor Allen for your blunder of a reply in his obvious time of tremendous heartbreak. Your mindless driveling about baptism is hardly appropriate conversation and why all the YELLING? Perhaps at 4:57a.m. you should have been sleeping it off!!! I am going to guess that Steve didn't even read Pastor Allen's blog and that he just "robo advertises" on different pastor's blogs, this is very unfortunate and sickening. Sorry Pastor Al...you have been spammed, because truly, no goodhearted Christian would have replied in this manner. You are loved by so many and our hearts break for you. We offer our prayers for peace and comfort in your time of sorrow. Tanya
ReplyDeleteAl,
ReplyDeleteThis is a eulogy committal from centuries ago, but is most fitting for Reva.
Song of Farewell
Saints of God, come to her aid!
Hasten to meet her, angels of the Lord!
Receive her soul and present her to God the Most High.
May Christ, who called you, take you to himself,
May angels lead you to the bosom of Abraham.
Receive her soul and present her to God Most High.
Eternal rest grant unto her
and let perpetual light shine upon her.
Receive her soul and present her to God the Most High.
Psalm 114:15, “Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints.”
May choirs of angels welcome you
and lead you to the bosom of Abraham;
and where Lazarus is poor no longer
may you find eternal rest.
May saints and angels lead you on,
escorting you where Christ has gone.
Now he has called you,
come to him who sits above the seraphim.
Come to the peace of Abraham
and to the supper of the lamb;
Come to the glory of the blessed,
and to perpetual light.
Yo' Bro'
Thanks Steve, 'Yo Bro'. I need to hear this to keep me going. You're a good brother. I never knew it could be this hard. Thank you. It really helps to know when people truly care.
ReplyDeletePastor Al - have just finished reading all of this and am so sorry that someone could be so insensitive that he would put a post of this type on your page. I totally agree with Tanya. She is right. You are so loved and prayed for. I know in some ways that doesn't help ease your pain and yet perhaps in some small measure, it does. Most of all, you are loved by God. And He can comfort as no one else can. Just know you are allowed to grieve. Someone very special has been removed from your life and even tho you had some time, perhaps, to know that day was coming, it's hard. Just know you are remembered in prayer.
ReplyDeleteWe love you both very much! If you are in need of anything, please don't hesitate to call or just drop by. You have been a blessing to our church and our family!
ReplyDeletePastor Al- I have been reading some of your blogs and this one about Reva is so touching. You are a gentleman and a Christian. There is no doubt in my mind, but that your sweetheart is in God's presence and she is healed and whole again. When your day comes to meet the Lord, I know Reva will be there to welcome you home.
ReplyDelete